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> <channel><title>Comments on: Zone Control. Scenario Madness continues.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/</link> <description>Massively Multiplayer Online Gaming, Current Affairs, and Random Stuff!</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:23:47 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Crofe</title><link>http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-19239</link> <dc:creator>Crofe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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Not made by me (seems every time I have an idea for something, someone&#039;s already gone and done it)  I have looked at the code and understand what it&#039;s doing and it&#039;s the best we&#039;re going to get from the API.  It&#039;s a percentage of your VP till you cap (i.e. 50% would be your bar at the tick for the other faction&#039;s control).  It&#039;s better than nothing and tracks all zones to boot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://war.curse.com/downloads/war-addons/details/realmstatus.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://war.curse.com/downloads/war-addons/details/realmstatus.aspx</a></p><p>Not made by me (seems every time I have an idea for something, someone&#8217;s already gone and done it)  I have looked at the code and understand what it&#8217;s doing and it&#8217;s the best we&#8217;re going to get from the API.  It&#8217;s a percentage of your VP till you cap (i.e. 50% would be your bar at the tick for the other faction&#8217;s control).  It&#8217;s better than nothing and tracks all zones to boot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Arkenor</title><link>http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-19105</link> <dc:creator>Arkenor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.arksark.org/blog/?p=689#comment-19105</guid> <description>I think you&#039;re right that it would be helpful if we got some sort of notification when anything that we do grants victory points. Even with the information in the grab bag,  there is still too much uncertainty surrounding the system that lies at the heart of determining who wins the WAR.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right that it would be helpful if we got some sort of notification when anything that we do grants victory points. Even with the information in the grab bag,  there is still too much uncertainty surrounding the system that lies at the heart of determining who wins the WAR.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Crofe</title><link>http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-19100</link> <dc:creator>Crofe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:54:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.arksark.org/blog/?p=689#comment-19100</guid> <description>I keep hearing people mention taking keeps and holding them and implying that they take keeps first (which is also the case on my server).  Why do they do that?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Battlefield objectives (BOs) and Keeps are binary. This means that once you own a BO or a keep, you have a chunk of zone control points that don’t go away unless the enemy takes it from you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
From this I get that &lt;b&gt;owning a keep or BO doesn&#039;t accumulate points over time&lt;/b&gt;, so why would you take Keeps and BOs first, then start doing PQs and Scenarios?  There are two problems with that, 1. You have to defend the keeps and BOs or you lose the work that went into getting them.  2. You have less people doing PQs and Scenarios because they have to &quot;defend&quot; your keeps.
I&#039;ve tried to convey this to my Alliance members and have basically been brushed aside saying that when they just do PQs and Scenarios, Destro&#039;s bar moves more than Order&#039;s.  I&#039;ll give them the fact that I&#039;ve not personally witnessed this, and I do know that Order on Monolith has never capped a zone.  But without seeing it and just looking at the facts, I cannot justify taking keeps with the intent to control a zone before we know that taking those keeps and BOs is going to push us past the tick.
Which server was it that order pushed to IC?  I wouldn&#039;t mind asking some questions to that community.
And another thing I just thought of. . .why don&#039;t they show a numeric value for VPs?  And now typing that makes me think is there a numeric value for VPs that a mod might be able to uncover and display?  I&#039;m going to have to look into this. . .
A numeric value or even just some message saying that I&#039;m actually gaining VPs would help tremendously because then I would know that what I&#039;m doing is helping capture the zone.  Because as it stands, I can&#039;t tell if running PQs and Scenarios really moves the bar or not.
Sorry for the mini-rant, but when it comes down to it I agree with you.  Right now taking BOs and Keeps are the only thing I know for sure contribute to VPs in anyway that&#039;s visible.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep hearing people mention taking keeps and holding them and implying that they take keeps first (which is also the case on my server).  Why do they do that?</p><blockquote><p>Battlefield objectives (BOs) and Keeps are binary. This means that once you own a BO or a keep, you have a chunk of zone control points that don’t go away unless the enemy takes it from you.</p></blockquote><p>From this I get that <b>owning a keep or BO doesn&#8217;t accumulate points over time</b>, so why would you take Keeps and BOs first, then start doing PQs and Scenarios?  There are two problems with that, 1. You have to defend the keeps and BOs or you lose the work that went into getting them.  2. You have less people doing PQs and Scenarios because they have to &#8220;defend&#8221; your keeps.</p><p>I&#8217;ve tried to convey this to my Alliance members and have basically been brushed aside saying that when they just do PQs and Scenarios, Destro&#8217;s bar moves more than Order&#8217;s.  I&#8217;ll give them the fact that I&#8217;ve not personally witnessed this, and I do know that Order on Monolith has never capped a zone.  But without seeing it and just looking at the facts, I cannot justify taking keeps with the intent to control a zone before we know that taking those keeps and BOs is going to push us past the tick.</p><p>Which server was it that order pushed to IC?  I wouldn&#8217;t mind asking some questions to that community.</p><p>And another thing I just thought of. . .why don&#8217;t they show a numeric value for VPs?  And now typing that makes me think is there a numeric value for VPs that a mod might be able to uncover and display?  I&#8217;m going to have to look into this. . .</p><p>A numeric value or even just some message saying that I&#8217;m actually gaining VPs would help tremendously because then I would know that what I&#8217;m doing is helping capture the zone.  Because as it stands, I can&#8217;t tell if running PQs and Scenarios really moves the bar or not.</p><p>Sorry for the mini-rant, but when it comes down to it I agree with you.  Right now taking BOs and Keeps are the only thing I know for sure contribute to VPs in anyway that&#8217;s visible.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Da Bloody Twenty - November 13 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</title><link>http://www.arksark.org/blog/689/zone-control-scenario-madness-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-19081</link> <dc:creator>Da Bloody Twenty - November 13 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:22:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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